1. Ben Werdmuller: Facebook bug leaks 6 million users' details. Somehow now seems like a drop in the ocean. https://www.facebook.com/notes/facebook-security/important-message-from-facebooks-white-hat-program/10151437074840766 5m 2 Another great benefit of the #IndieWeb: being able to edit typos in your status updates. http://werd.io/view/51c4e161bed7de073150079b Ben Werdmuller, Jun 21 2013 @benwerd is that an indieweb comments implementation I see there? Jovian Salak, Jun 21 2013

    @benwerd is that an indieweb comments implementation I see there?

  2. Ben Werdmuller: I don't get why you'd use markdown to blog on your own site. Markdown is useful: an easy-to-use notation system that allows you to mark up your text in a safe, fast way. Because you're never letting your users write raw code, there aren't any worries about them posting malware or exploit attempts, or accidentally writing bad markup. At the same time, simple lines and dashes are converted to valid HTML. Everybody wins. But when you're writing your own site, you don't need to worry about those things. You don't care about you posting malware or exploit attempts. (Either you want to, or you won't.) You also don't need to worry as much about bad markup - and if you're not proficient in HTML, you can install a WYSIWYG editor, like the one in WordPress. Unless you're a Dr Jeckyll who morphs into an id-like alter ego without warning, you don't need to worry about your own trustworthiness as a user of your own system. On a self-hosted #indieweb site, all #markdown does is restrict what you can do. It has a syntax to learn, just like basic HTML does, and because you actually have to keep in mind which HTML tags it uses when you write it, it's actually a little bit more complicated to remember. I like a lot of the goals of new publishing platforms like Ghost (I backed it on Kickstarter) but this feature sticks out like a sore thumb to me. I'm not at all sure this is the best writing experience on the web. And I don't see what's wrong with HTML. Updated to add: I've had lots of feedback by people who point out that they just want to write text, not HTML, which is more than fair enough. But surely this shows demand for a smarter, context-sensitive rich text editor rather than another syntax to learn. Why couldn't an editor know to start creating bullet points when you type an asterisk and a space at the beginning of a new line? 13m

    @benwerd I use markdown for initial authoring purely for speed, esp. when typing on mobile devices. After that I just edit the HTML. I’ve yet to come across a WYSIWIM editor which satisfied my semantic, well-structured HTML needs, any suggestions?

  3. @benwerd loving your work on idno! Just had a look at the source, great that you’re using 2, I have some suggestions/corrections:

    • .h-entry is better off where you’ve got .idno-entry so then the author .h-card can be scoped into the entry
    • add .p-author to the .h-card for each .h-entry to explicitly declare authorship
    • put .h-as-* on the same element as .h-entry .idno-entry
    • put .u-url where you currently have .dt-published, move .dt-published to the time element

    Thanks to Aaron Parecki you can see how a page is parsed here, or use my php-mf2 demo sandbox for experimentation by hand.

  4. Why is structured querying of your personal data important? Self-reflection.

    Example in point: seeing what I’ve quoted, from who, about what, and what I’ve said about the quotes. How it’s changed over time. How I talk about it and present it in my personal context. From a technical point of view; how I mark it up.

    Twitter does the opposite of this, and encourages us to throw away our history, much less peruse it and learn from it. Facebook aims to present a glorified timeline emphasising the most “important” events in our life. I feel neither are particularly valuable.

  5. It’s funny — people are saying so much about the /federated social web not being a “Facebook Killer”, and yet it’s killed my usage of FB beyond occasional passive consumption.

    So, implementors: build stuff which kills your own FB usage before trying to kill facebook.

  6. Sandeep Shetty: PubSubHubbub (by Google for Google) or any push based solution for the web is unnecessarily complex for #indieweb. Polling works just fine.

    sandeepshetty hm, I'd actually say push based systems are super useful (certainly I have personal use cases which are too big for me to want to poll) but PuSH is way too complicated. It’s actually something I’m working on improving, as you did with Pingback => webfinger