Good morning #indiewebcamp! We set up a pre-conference hangout for all those not in the US. Care to join us?
Good morning #indiewebcamp! We set up a pre-conference hangout for all those not in the US. Care to join us?
@benwerd is that an indieweb comments implementation I see there?
The Contextual and Exponential Future of Facebook is a fascinating set of interviews with #facebook engineers. Of particular interest is the discussion of various implications of “liking” something on fb.
Okay, I think I have a working two-way #webmention #indieweb comments implementation happening. Anyone fancy replying via webmention so I can make sure?
@benwerd I use markdown for initial authoring purely for speed, esp. when typing on mobile devices. After that I just edit the HTML. I’ve yet to come across a WYSIWIM editor which satisfied my semantic, well-structured HTML needs, any suggestions?
Battle for the planet of the APIs by Jeremy Keith — nice piece of writing, it’s worth pointing out that Twitter still includes rel=me links back to homepages, but is increasingly wrapping them with t.co, making them fairly useless.
Whilst I admire RSS as a rallying cry for the openness of data on the web, I don’t like it much, mainly due to it’s DRY violation. microformats2 is the better solution.
@benwerd loving your work on idno! Just had a look at the source, great that you’re using #microformats 2, I have some suggestions/corrections:
.h-entry
is better off where you’ve got .idno-entry
so then the author .h-card
can be scoped into the entry.p-author
to the .h-card
for each .h-entry
to explicitly declare authorship.h-as-*
on the same element as .h-entry .idno-entry
.u-url
where you currently have .dt-published
, move .dt-published
to the time
elementThanks to Aaron Parecki you can see how a page is parsed here, or use my php-mf2 demo sandbox for experimentation by hand.
Hey @appdotnet @daltoncaldwell, what happened to rel=me
on personal homepage links on app.net? /cc Aaron Parecki Erin Richie #indieweb #indieauth
@_aitor what are you up to on the 22nd/23rd? We're remote participating indiewebcamp.com, it'd be great to talk about this stuff with you, drop into the office if you're free?
@sandeepshetty got there in the end :) Live code should now send WM by default. Next up is accepting webmentions #todo
Liked Indieweb Federated Likes by @sandeepshetty. Hopefully this’ll register as like on that page…
The way the web will win is if we out-web Facebook
Tom Morris hits the nail on the head.
Why is structured querying of your personal data important? Self-reflection.
Example in point: seeing what I’ve quoted, from who, about what, and what I’ve said about the quotes. How it’s changed over time. How I talk about it and present it in my personal context. From a technical point of view; how I mark it up.
Twitter does the opposite of this, and encourages us to throw away our history, much less peruse it and learn from it. Facebook aims to present a glorified timeline emphasising the most “important” events in our life. I feel neither are particularly valuable.
Beware debates about implementation that weren't preceded by debate and agreement on the desired outcome.
Particularly relevant to the #indieweb and #fedsocweb
/by rjs
It’s funny — people are saying so much about the #indieweb/federated social web not being a “Facebook Killer”, and yet it’s killed my usage of FB beyond occasional passive consumption.
So, implementors: build stuff which kills your own FB usage before trying to kill facebook.
Another #indieweb creator has commented on Laurent Eschenauer’s famous thread with a new implementation — congratulations benwerd!
Specced out improvements to #pubsubhubbub after use-case-driven discussion in #indiewebcamp: indiewebcamp.com/pubsub focusing on simplicity, reusability, content-agnosticism. Comments/discussion appreciated on wiki, IRC or your own sites /cc Brett Slatkin
sandeepshetty hm, I'd actually say push based systems are super useful (certainly I have personal use cases which are too big for me to want to poll) but PuSH is way too complicated. It’s actually something I’m working on improving, as you did with Pingback => webfinger