IndieWebCamp UK group photo:
/by Aaron Parecki
Finally got “home” home after one of the most intense weekends of my life. Now to spend a relaxing week sorting out the garage, finishing and trying to sell a hurdy gurdy, meeting up with people and following up #indiewebcamp.
Want to see IWCUK but can’t come? There’s a hangout: plus.google.com/hangouts/_/f78618cbdafa66c60c8c37de7a89fbef6f364d93
We’ll also be extensively etherpad-, IRC- and wiki-ing everything throughout the day.
Checked into Lighthouse for #indiewebcamp UK
On which note, looking forward to meeting all the people signed up for #indiewebcamp UK tomorrow! I’m the long haired beardy kid handing out badges.
#indiewebcampuk people: up for having an informal dinner meetup Friday (6th) evening around 19:30? Location unspecified as yet.
So @indiewebcampuk is over-capacity! Really looking forward to meeting you all in Brighton. If you’re interested in coming please do add yourself to the wait list in case there are cancellations, it would be a pity to have empty seats and there are plenty of other great events going on at the same time. indiewebcamp.com/2013/UK
Aral Balkan just booking my flights+accommodation etc., any news RE the design workshop you mentioned? Would be handy to know if solidified so I can adjust travel plans :)
Great work getting webmention set up and your content marked up with microformats!
At the moment of the method is built around a POSSE architecture. This works well for long form articles which can stand alone but address issues or ideas that are posted on an external website.
The evidence is against you here, as almost all known usage of webmention has been for short replies which don’t make sense without context.
But if that is all there is to webmentions it is just a nicer implementation of Pingback.
Pingback succeeded because it was simple. Webmention is even simpler, for good reason.
However the current workflow is awkward and i doubt it will catch on with the general public. Sophisticated Indieweb users can and will read an article on an external site and then return to their own to post a comment, but that king of behaviour is not intuitive.
I absolutely agree! I’m trying various different approaches to making this easier (and making web content more actionable in general), currently I’m using web action toolbelt to really quickly reply to content on other sites. There’s been a lot of discussion about this, and it’s something which everyone can work on as more people start implementing indieweb comments.
I make the comment on the external site and as part of making the comment I add my author url, that being the url of my own site. The external site then sends a webmention of the comment to my site. My own site could then scrapes my comment and saves a copy in my CMS. Otionall I could republish the comment in my blog or activity feed at my discretion. Thus fully implementing PESOS.
We actually discussed this exact flow at IWCUK 2012, but no-one ever implemented it because, with browser extensions, there’s no need to log in to other people’s sites (complex to implement) and have those sites post to each other (security hole).
Thanks for bringing these issues up, it’s great to have new people join the discussion! I’ll start documenting your points on the Indiewebcamp wiki — it’s there and on the #indiewebcamp IRC room where most discussion takes place.
It’s @dConstruct season again and I’m looking for accommodation in Brighton in early September again. Ideally a couch to sleep on for a few days — anyone have one/can recommend one?