@thatEmil woah, huge possibility for profound-sounding statments right there :)
@thatEmil woah, huge possibility for profound-sounding statments right there :)
Aral Balkan there’s been a lot of discussion recently about deletion of #indieweb content — some documented here: indiewebcamp.com/deleted and indiewebcamp.com/POSSE#Delete
E.G. if I’ve replied to one of your notes/tweets and stored a reply context so even if your copy goes down my content still makes sense, but you delete the original — should I delete it, devaluing my own content? Should I mark it as changed or deleted?
@seb_ly also kinda hilarious that they threaten to “print out” reposts. Tempted to alter my print styles to give them a little surprise…
Aaron Parecki sssh! I got a good thing going on here :D
Aral Balkan just booking my flights+accommodation etc., any news RE the design workshop you mentioned? Would be handy to know if solidified so I can adjust travel plans :)
@billchristian yes, and cross-browser with something like kangoextensions.com
The #indieweb is a social network that works like the web
s/works like/is
Great work getting webmention set up and your content marked up with microformats!
At the moment of the method is built around a POSSE architecture. This works well for long form articles which can stand alone but address issues or ideas that are posted on an external website.
The evidence is against you here, as almost all known usage of webmention has been for short replies which don’t make sense without context.
But if that is all there is to webmentions it is just a nicer implementation of Pingback.
Pingback succeeded because it was simple. Webmention is even simpler, for good reason.
However the current workflow is awkward and i doubt it will catch on with the general public. Sophisticated Indieweb users can and will read an article on an external site and then return to their own to post a comment, but that king of behaviour is not intuitive.
I absolutely agree! I’m trying various different approaches to making this easier (and making web content more actionable in general), currently I’m using web action toolbelt to really quickly reply to content on other sites. There’s been a lot of discussion about this, and it’s something which everyone can work on as more people start implementing indieweb comments.
I make the comment on the external site and as part of making the comment I add my author url, that being the url of my own site. The external site then sends a webmention of the comment to my site. My own site could then scrapes my comment and saves a copy in my CMS. Otionall I could republish the comment in my blog or activity feed at my discretion. Thus fully implementing PESOS.
We actually discussed this exact flow at IWCUK 2012, but no-one ever implemented it because, with browser extensions, there’s no need to log in to other people’s sites (complex to implement) and have those sites post to each other (security hole).
Thanks for bringing these issues up, it’s great to have new people join the discussion! I’ll start documenting your points on the Indiewebcamp wiki — it’s there and on the #indiewebcamp IRC room where most discussion takes place.
But if you need compatibility with older browsers, a table might still be the best tool for the job.
Oh practicaltypography.com, you were doing so well. Table styling via CSS, yes. Table markup, never apart from data tables.
Aral Balkan best place to start is h-card on the homepage (with rel=me on twitter/email links) and h-entry on your notes. All the mf2 vocab pages have examples on, and let me know if you run into any problems — we’re always looking to make the docs better.
Aral Balkan lookin’ good — how about sprinkling some microformats2 goodness over it? The documentation is shinier now microformats.org/wiki/microformats2
@boagworld @mailpileteam are great folks doing great work, currently fundraising: igg.me/at/mailpile
@benwerd nice — but what is that in a sane unit? “Floors” have never made any sense to me :/
@mailpileteam Brennan Novak @smarimc also known as the procrastibutton?
@jihaisse congratulations on getting #POSSE and #indiecomments working!
@benwerd it’s a restaurant in the middle of town — no idea what the name actually means, I’ll ask an Icelander http://www.idno.is/english.html
The D isn’t actually a D, nor is it pronounced like one. It’s an Eth.
Which begs the question: is this bus a venue? A moving venue? #geo
@benwerd mainly chickens
Glenn Jones yay! Looking forward to exchanging mentions :) #indieweb