It’s been a couple of years, but I think I did start with rye flour! I should try again now that I’m back in the vicinity of San Francisco. Supposed to be something special in the air here :P

oh wow, you’re doing a whole 1st derivative of serial position effect thing! very interesting, I do wonder if anyone else has documented that

my dad always calls this “primacy and recency”, but apparently it’s Serial position effect

Did you start with pineapple juice instead of water? IIRC, that’s what the Bread Baker’s Apprentice recommended and no matter how many times I diluted it, it stayed really fruity. Never could get it very sour though, I blame San Diego for not having interesting enough bacteria.

Did you start with pineapple juice instead of water? IIRC, that’s what the Bread Baker’s Bible recommended and no matter how many times I diluted it, it stayed really fruity. Never could get it very sour though, I blame San Diego for not having interesting enough bacteria.