@john_nye @andycayenne always a permanent marker/thick felt tip for me. Scan, build digitally, print out, scribble, scan, repeat :) Same as how I #design instruments.

sophiedennis your project sounds a bit like my gurdies! I’ve been nearly there for days. Got the Keyboxes glued on today, so almost finished now.

I’m trying to grow up but it’s hard past a certain age

Ha, love it Aral Balkan :)

fraying I don't have a pet currently but I love what you're doing with cute fight — the logos in particular are perfect

sophiedennis Laura Kalbag that’d be brilliant! We really need more designers/UX people helping out. Perhaps discuss it further at #digpen?

sophiedennis one of the interesting things about #indiewebcamp is that there’s almost no discussion about privacy or security. It’s completely focused on sharing, content ownership and lowering the barrier to entry.

Laura Kalbag also, things like Aral Balkan’s great wordpress export tools make it especially easy to migrate to self-hosted indieweb — hosted w/ own domain name redirect is the achievable first step.

.Laura Kalbag “on your own space” is important but not a prerequisite of #indieweb (IMO at least). The domain name is the most important thing, so starting with hosted wordpress.com or tumblr or even just redirecting to it is valid and an easy first step.

I’d encourage you to check out the Getting Started Guide — feedback/edits gratefully accepted, it’s important to me that the guide is as helpful and clear as it can be.

Laura Kalbag would you agree that wordpress.com (and to a lesser extent, other wordpress services) is non-techie-friendly? It supports most of the infrastructure we’re using on our #indieweb sites (e.g. pubsubhubbub, pingback, microformats) and provided you hook up your own domain name is an equally valid way of owning your content/identity online as rolling your own.

Laura Kalbag no, no, no, the #indieweb web is the future :) Not any one silo.

Nick Charlton woah. that is insane.

cgcardona love those old moon–bases :) #lego

@andycayenne @samsweeny123 right at this very moment :) Just drilled and glued all the keys for the two maple 7 string sopranos I’m working on at the mo. If you're interested, drop me an email: barnaby@waterpigs.co.uk

Brennan Novak reminds me of a lovely book I saw called Folds for Designers — filled not even with origami but just folded paper. Beautiful shapes!

branch that’s great to hear, but it’s not my primary concern and not the reason I don’t want to use branch. My concern is that I don’t really want to be hosting my thoughts and/or identity in a place I don’t control.

Most of the time I would post the content here and duplicate it on the 3rd party site, linking back. In this specific case, being asked to log in with twitter purely for the privilege of asking to be part of a conversation was off-putting enough for me not to bother.

Chris Messina tbh I prefer to have actual discussions with people over IRC or hangout or other such medium, and use my website as a destination for solidified results of those discussions, and a broadcast medium to include others too. So I'd love to hear your comments on stuff I’ve said, perhaps in #indiewebcamp on freenode? :)

Chris Messina yeah, it does that the first time — as there’s no benefit to anyone apart from the site owner logging in yet, I haven’t fixed it. People keep thinking they can comment if they sign in, I’m not sure whether to allow it or reinforce that people shouldn't (I don't want to host other people's thoughts any more than I want to host my own thoughts elsewhere!). Comments accepted via Pingback :)

.@chrismessina briefly: I agree that, whilst I have a fair number of apps installed, very few of them get regular use. Interestingly IME there is little/no correlation between cost of app and frequency of use (my most expensive apps are music creation ones which get used rarely compared to, e.g. tweetbot, mail or safari).

I also like some of @scottjenson’s thinking around JIT interactions. Certainly that approach has applications outside the #iot.

This evening’s hacking is based around parsing and importing my #iOS diagnostic data — should be interesting to see if I can find any behavioural patterns.

(btw, I refuse to sign in to branch with twitter so they can send a tweet for me so you can let me write on your branch. Just… no :)

Shane Becker yeah, where are all these #ruby apps consuming µf2?! My fairly complete #php µf2 parser has had 55 installs so far, probably mainly me updating it :)

.Erin Richey my reasoning is that tags are something you add to content, whereas categories are something you put content into. Tags -> content -> categories — so categories are higher up in the pecking order.